Stand up to your fricking god.

Stand up to your fricking god.

God does not want you to force a woman to have a baby that she cannot or does not want to have.  God wants you to mind your own dam business, unless you just want to offer your empathy and assistance.

God wants you to try and put yourself in the shoes of others instead of judging.

God does not think highly of those who spend so much effort on people who have never taken a breath versus the elderly, the sick and the poor. (social security, health care and taxes people!)

God wants you to get off the dam sofa and go run around instead of stewing on what other people are doing with or putting into their bodies.

God wants you to try pot.  No really, it’s god’s “I’m sorry for making this world such a bitch sometimes” gift.

God does not want gay people to have a type of sex that disgusts them in the same way that gay sex disgusts you.  It definitely does not disgust god, just you by the way.

God likes it when people want to rejoice in their mutual love, no matter what form it takes.

God does not think that any “institution” is more important then the happiness of people who make up “institutions”.  God does not put things before people.

God hopes that you will care for the natural world around you.

God does not want you to go to war.  (Read this one until it really sinks in)

God does not recall that “supporting your troops” was written anywhere in any religious text, ever, and is mystified why people think that.

God is not pleased with anyone fighting the idiotically titled “holy war”

God is not pleased with the rich who fight to get richer.

God is not going to punish anyone who worked their whole life to learn and understand instead of to judge and assume.

God is not going to punish anyone who worked their whole life to build and create instead of destroying and killing.

God is not going to punish anyone who worked their whole life to love and be compassionate instead of moralizing and demonizing.

If your god is telling you any of the latter things, STAND UP TO YOUR FUCKING GOD, because in case you haven’t noticed, your god wouldn’t even make a good human being.



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I'd like to add just a couple things...

  1.  God is not vengeful, jealous, arrogant or petty.  These qualities are the sole property of man.

  2.  God did not create man in his own image.  If you need proof, take a look around.  (The White House would be a good place to start)

  3.  Man created God in his own image.  (See point 1)

  4.  God doesn't care if you believe in him.  

I love your posting.  One, because it is so true, and two because it would freak the holy shit out of a right wing religious nut job, who would then label you as a liberal Godless heathen.  
by Slapmaxwell on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 04:24:16 PM EST

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Thank you, I like your additions as well, although I was being careful not to anthropomorphize god in the post, trying to take god out of the context of humanism and separate the two ideas, but I think I see your points from the emphasis as well.
"Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil."... Plato
by Spartacus on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 03:20:47 PM EST
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  This is a most important discussion for we Dems to have right now. Spartacus does an excellent job of laying out what, in the end, are more important moral values than the narrow and divisive issues that currently monopolize the term. It is important for us to articulate those values in an authentic way. I saw Rep. Pelosi on Lou Dobbs the other night, she was making a ham-fisted and very obviously political attempt to discuss values. It appeared that she was merely trying to high-jack the language of the Religious Right. This is a recipe for diaster.

 There is an honest distinction to be made between religion and faith. One does not need to be religious in order to be spiritual, or to have faith and moral values. Our party seems to have pretty firm support from this constituency. We must reach out to Hispanic and white church-going people. How do we do that without coming across as political pandering? Pres Clinton, it seems to me, despite his peccadillos, remains our great example in this area. He communicates very well that he is a person of faith. His faith isn't something "added on." It is a part of who is as person. Barak Obama is this same way. Both these men speak the language of faith very convincingly. Senator-elect Obama trounced a right-wing religious nut in a mid-Western state. This is encouraging.

 The wonderful support the Democratic Party has received over the years from the Black Church is a foundation on which to build. It is also support that should not be taken for granted. There are specific issues that need to be addressed, such as abortion and marriage. I like the distinction Pres. Clinton articulated back in August: "I have never met anybody that was pro-abortion, and that's not what pro-choice means, it just means we don't want to criminalize mothers
and their doctors." As a Catholic deacon, I can say that Sen. Kerry would have been well-served to have somebody on his campaign conversant with Catholic moral teaching. It would not have taken much effort to shut down criticisms of extreme bishops, like Archbishop Chaput of Denver, by invoking sound Catholic teaching, to include statements by, among others, Cardinal McCarrick of Washinton, D.C.

 I read a posting earlier in which somebody wrote that Pres. Clinton had advised Sen. Kerry to come out against civil unions. He gave no such advice. He advised Sen. Kerry to come out, generally, in support states regulating marriage, as 11 states had initiatives on the ballots to amend state Constitutions. Many of these amendments have gone too far, but party organizations in those states could have advised the campaign. Why? Because marriage is a state issue. Also, there is victory in this advise in that state's, like Massachusetts and Vermont, that either allow marriage or civil unions, will remain free to do so by foreclosing the need for an amendment to the federal Constitution.

 Now, not all initiatives are the same. For example, the one here in Utah, which was adopted verbatim by Michigan, forecloses the possibility of same-sex couples receiving any of the close to 1,100 specific benefits that married couples enjoy. While it passed overwhelmingly, the people who thought about how drastic this amendment is voted against it- even many conservatives. Our Catholic bishop opposed in publicly. Even the very conservative, Republican attorney general opposed it. Why? Many people who oppose full-blown same-sex marriage (i.e., giving all marital benefits to same-sex couples) recognize that by denying all benefits there are fundamental issues of justice and equality at stake. Democrats must speak intelligently to these issues.

 In short, we need to motivate our base and educate voters. Let's continue this conversation.

 

by UtahDem on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 09:04:07 PM EST

Ignorance (none / 0)

Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil."... Plato

I think these GOPers should all go out and re-take Basic Science 101.  I think they were all too busy with their cheerleading duties first time around.

by Slapmaxwell on Thu Nov 11, 2004 at 09:02:33 AM EST

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Utah Dem, The Catholics seem to be caught in a quagmire concerning the abortion issue.  Pro-life is has logically taken a strong hold in the Catholic Church, which puts it at odds with the Democrats, which in every other way, is the party that most closely parrellels themselves in principle.  (Despite the right wing belief that Democrats are a bunch of Godless heathens)  I think you made a great point concerning how Kerry was hurt by his failure to connect with the Catholic's.  I know  Catholics who would have loved to have supported him but couldn't get passed the abortion issue, and turned to Bush even though they were against every other position of his platform.  It was that important to them.
by Slapmaxwell on Thu Nov 11, 2004 at 09:36:42 AM EST


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